New York: After Pakistan’s National Security and Foreign Affairs Adviser Sartaj Aziz said the talks between New Delhi and Islamabad can happen only if the former takes the initiative, External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj on Thursday said it was the Islamic state which “spoiled the game” by talking to Hurriyat leaders.
“New (Narendra Modi) government has given a new signal. So they (Pakistan) spoiled the talks, they spoiled the game,” Swaraj told reporters here after her meeting with the IBSA Foreign Ministers on the sidelines of the ongoing UN General Assembly session.
India had last month cancelled the Foreign Secretary-level talks with Pakistan to protest against a meeting between Kashmiri separatist leaders and Islamabad’s envoy to New Delhi.
Reacting to Aziz’s remarks that talks between the two countries can happen only if New Delhi takes the initiative since India was the one which cancelled the August 25 talks, Swaraj said: “No question of first or second. As far as our reaction is concerned we have said repeatedly that if a reaction had to come it had to come at this time only. The initiative was there from our side.”
She said it was Prime Minister Narendra Modi who had invited Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif for his swearing-in ceremony.
During the bilateral meeting between the two PMs, it was discussed that trade should start immediately at the Wagah-Attari border, said Swaraj.
She said Sharif had suggested that foreign secretaries should meet for bilateral talks and “we agreed to that.”
“But just as the talks are about to happen on the 25th (August), four days prior to that the (Pakistani envoy) is talking with Hurriyat leaders, then who spoiled the game,” she asked.
Aziz had also remarked that there was nothing new in Pakistani officials talking to Hurriyat leaders and such talks have been happening for the last 20 years.
Swaraj said as far as talks with Hurriyat leaders are concerned, the leaders who came from Pakistan used to talk with the group.
But “for the first time Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif came to India and he did not talk to them because he understood India’s signal. Things began from there,” she said.
“But before any talks, the ambassador has met with the Hurriyat leaders, that has never happened,” Swaraj said.
Swaraj said she has not talked to Aziz yet but the two were present for the Commonwealth and SAARC Foreign Ministers’ meetings yesterday.
Swaraj had last met Aziz on September 12 at the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation Summit in Dushanbe where the two had exchanged pleasantries during a break at the summit.
“When you are sitting at the same dinner table you have some civilities. We exchanged pleasantries,” she said of her meeting in the Tajik capital.
Ahead of participating in the SAARC meeting, Aziz told a group of Indian reporters that an India-Pakistan talks can happen only if New Delhi takes the initiative.
He said there is no possibility of a meeting between Modi and Sharif.
On being asked that India was upset over Pakistani envoy Abdul Basit’s talks with Hurriyat leaders, Aziz said “it was an over-reaction by India.”
“Hurriyat talks were nothing new. (Pakistan officials) have been meeting Hurriyat leaders since last 20 years. There will be no initiative from our side. Initiative has to come from India.”
On India having concerns over ceasefire violations at the border, Aziz said there were not any violations by Pakistan.